Hey guys i've been gassing for a hm strat and been watching a few but i keep seeing ones with another bridge pickup that is blatantly not a dimarzio super 3 appearence wise. Now i've got a theory that these are stock and that they are possibly dimarzio super distortions since they used these in a few other models but i'm not sure and would like to hear input on this?
lBeast has some theories/scoop on that. Hopefully he'll see this thread and pop in with the 411.
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This is the famed Fender HM Strat International Series which was probably the 1988 "Offshore" model spoken of in the 40th Anniversary book of "The Fender Stratocaster" by A.R. Duchossoir. These are probably the first incarnations of the HM Strat, which were not distributed to the US initially. I saw one for sale recently in England which leads creedence to my belief that this series was the famed offshore model initially distributed abroad, but not in the US. As you can see it has a unknown humbucker in it. It is my belief that this is indeed the first Dimarzio put into a Fender guitar by the factory and probably is a Super Distortion, not a Super 3. I have a regular SD which came in my Fender Custom Shop Setneck Strat Floyd Rose model and it is much weaker than my SD3 equipped HMs and sounds nothing like an SD3. Notice in the picture below that the pickup has regular pole pieces unlike the SD3 which has hex pole pieces. Now say what you will, and you will, but that is my tale and your sittin' on yours.
That would explain a lot because i live in scotland so obviously i'm looking at UK/europe based hms. Infact im shopping around just now and as far as i know i've only seen ONE hm strat with a super 3 for sale over here so they're alot more common over here with this other pickup.
Last Edit: Jun 24, 2010 9:24:39 GMT -5 by angusftw
The history of the Super 3 pickup is that Fender came to DiMarzio and asked for a new pickup for their new HM guitars. DiMarzio made a modified version of the Super Distortion (more mids, chopped treble) and gave it to Fender as a starting point from which to work.
Fender tested it and discovered it was a really cool pickup. They told DiMarzio not to make any more modifications - they wanted to go with this prototype. Originally called the DiMarzio H1 and/or H2, it was given an "H" designation because that meant "Made Exclusively for Fender." A few years after the HM was discontinued, the pickup was made available to the general public in 1994, under the Super 3 name.
So another theory is that this pickup could have been the original H1/H2, just made with polepieces instead of hex screws.
If any of our English brothers get a chance, could you take a meter reading on one of those pickups for us? If it's around 13k, good chances are it was a Super D. If it's more like 25k, good chances are it's a Super 3.
"Jimi would be playing an HM Strat if he were still alive." Bob @ Genesis Recording Studios.
I may be able to contribute (I was asking a similar question in my own post 'What pick-ups' a few weeks back).
I am in the UK and have a HM Strat which I acquired a couple of months ago from someone who bought it from a local shop in the early 1990s so it has quite good provenance. It is Teal with S/N E827418 (I am guessing 1988?) and there is no evidence that it has been modified. I wrote -
"The humbucker I do not think is a DiMarzio Super 3. It has normal slugs & screws, a slightly rough textured top, no holes in the bobbins and the base-plate is unmarked (I have a couple of '80s Hamers that have OEM DiMarzios and they are enscribed on the base-plate) and a DC resistance of ~13Kohms. It is identical to those in several of the HM Strat pictures so I think it's original and I am therefore guessing that this is a Fender Humbucker? Does anyone know anything about these?"
I think it is a Fender as it has 2 height adjustment screws on the bass side and 1 on the treble side of the surround. This is something seen on Fender humbuckers (eg thinline tele's) but I have not seen it elsewhere. In terms of sound I feel that it is quite powerful but has quite a 'tight' bass - not so rich as eg the SD Pearly Gates in my Showmaster - so I am guessing that maybe it has a ceramic magnet??
It looks exactly the same as the one in the red HM, refinished to black, in the gallery on teh HM website.