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Post by lbeast on Feb 28, 2010 22:20:38 GMT -5
I would venture to guess your HM is a 1989-90. I base this on the database info Jim has been building, the Fender serial # dating website, and my own personal experience trying to order a HM HH in July 1990. I had no success in being able to buy this HM because they stopped production of the HH according to Thoroughbred Music in Tampa. This would mean to me that Fender ended the production of Kahler equipped HMs and were beginning the production MIJ OFR HMs. Fender & Floyd Rose probably began their relationship in late 1990 early 1991, which meant the MIJ models with OFR tremolos probably were brought into production in 1991. On eBay I have seen some MIJs with Kahlers on them as well. These were probably hybrid instruments made during the transition phase between the Kahler equipped HMs and the OFR equipped HMs.
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Post by Bodaggit23 on Mar 1, 2010 7:52:05 GMT -5
Nice, Beast!
Thanks for the info!
Do you think my other HM would be about the same year?
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Post by lbeast on Mar 1, 2010 20:22:14 GMT -5
Your white one is probably an 1988-89 judging the color and the possible original pickup configuration of HSS coupled with the E9 serial#. A general rule of thumb (and I use that term loosely) is that E8=88, E9=89. I am guessing that the F serial #s are going to range from 1989-90 based on my own personal experience, the HMs I own that begin with that serial #, Fender Frontline Magazine info, and the Fender Stratocaster 40th Anniversary Edition, by A.R. Duchossoir. I haven't seen a G serial # HM series Strat. Perhaps someone has one. I haven't see one in the database so far. H & I serial numbers are generally going to be from 1990-91 based on the HMs I own with those serial #s, Fender Frontline Magazine info, and the Fender Stratocaster 40th Anniversary Edition, by A.R. Duchossoir. J & K serial #s are going to be MIJs probably from 1991-92 based on the HMs I own with those serial #s, and Fender Frontline Magazine info, and other HM pamphlets/posters I have. These are not hard and fast facts, just my experience with the HMs I own. I could be wrong. I have been wrong before and I will most certainly be wrong again.  Giggity Giggity!  |
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Post by Bodaggit23 on Mar 2, 2010 2:27:54 GMT -5
More please. ;D I hope you don't tire of my questions.
What's the difference between MIJ and USA made?
I thought all the parts were made in Japan, and some were merely assembled in the US after the buyout?
Based on your info, I probably have two USA HM's?
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Post by lbeast on Mar 2, 2010 22:06:22 GMT -5
Bo, You have two alleged USA HMs.  It is my belief, and many others, that all HMs were made in Japan at the Fuji Gen Gakki factory (think Ibanez). Some of the so called USA made HMs were probably assembled and possibly painted in the US, but everything else may have been constructed in Japan. The differences I have found between a MIJ and a USA are as follows: 1) MIJs have Super Jumbo frets 2) MIJs have OFR tremolos 3) 25.1" scale MIJ and 25" scale for USA 4) Volume & Tone knobs are set further back towards the rear of the body 5) MIJs have no on/off splitter switch for the Super 3 HB 6) The MIJ neck shape is more like a regular Strat "C" shape than the USA HM's "D" shape. 7) Some MIJ stone paint jobs appear to be done in the photoflame process as the filaments of black appear to be some sort of screen print or photo process done to simulate the stone paint jobs rather than every stone paint job being a one of a kind. The MIJ blackstone HM I have has gold filaments instead of white and appears to be a non-photo process unlike the blue & redstone MIJ paint jobs. 8) MIJs have a headstock painted black with non-script "Strat" logo That is all I can think of off the top of my head.  I'm not sure about the buyout your referring to. Do you mean the 1985 Fender Employee buyout from CBS? Don't worry anout asking me questions. I have acquired what some might see as "useless knowledge". I might as well put it to good use disseminating it to those who have a passion for the same instrument I have taken a liking to.  |
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Post by Bodaggit23 on Mar 3, 2010 2:37:28 GMT -5
Wow. I'm amazed how much you know about these things, and am honored to be a part of the same forum. Thanks for all the info, dude. I know it takes time reply in such detail. Many thanks. Nevermind the "buyout" comment. I'm obviously way off base with my "facts". lol |
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Post by lbeast on Mar 3, 2010 22:27:14 GMT -5
Wow. I'm amazed how much you know about these things, and am honored to be a part of the same forum. I know right? No really, I stand before you naked (Figuratively I mean. I assure you I am fully clothed) and ashamed.  Bo, All kidding aside, I appreciate the kind words. Glad I can help. |
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Post by nyeguitarist on Apr 11, 2010 20:38:06 GMT -5
Thats awesome looking! is it just me or does the pickguard make it remniscent of a fender mustang? I don't know, I might be crazy. That's sweet though. I hope I can find one like that so I can have a double humbucker hm
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Post by fenderbender1017 on Apr 11, 2010 22:02:56 GMT -5
Wow that neck humbucker worked out sweet!
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Post by Bodaggit23 on Apr 12, 2010 0:35:20 GMT -5
Thats awesome looking! is it just me or does the pickguard make it remniscent of a fender mustang? I don't know, I might be crazy. That's sweet though. I hope I can find one like that so I can have a double humbucker hm
I think it's supposed to make it resemble a Telecaster, although I have no idea why they did that. lol
When I think "Heavy Metal", the Telecaster certainly doesn't come to mind. ;D
Wow that neck humbucker worked out sweet!
I just don't like pickguards... |
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Post by spacerocker on Apr 12, 2010 1:27:52 GMT -5
Indeed. But still, every time I look at it, I want to take the pickguard off! LOL
I just don't like pickguards... Me Neither. At least not on Rock guitars. But I wouldn't have my standard (traditional) strat any other way! I have a theory that the pickguard was introduced on the Strat for ease of sub-assembly of the pick-ups and controls, rather than for any cosmetic/protective reasons! |
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Post by nickwellings on Apr 12, 2010 5:37:10 GMT -5
Indeed. But still, every time I look at it, I want to take the pickguard off! LOL
I just don't like pickguards... I have a theory that the pickguard was introduced on the Strat for ease of sub-assembly of the pick-ups and controls, rather than for any cosmetic/protective reasons! I am sure you are correct. The whole thing Leo Fender wanted was basically ease of assembly, and ease of replacing parts. Just happened that the modularity of that system enables us to make parts-o-casters and so on. |
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Post by Bodaggit23 on Apr 29, 2010 0:27:57 GMT -5
As I have my purple HM apart, modeling parts for my Aluminum HM, I discovered a round "sticker" under all the layers of paint, and I could not resist.
Was this an original color offered?
Red Crackle? 
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Post by Bodaggit23 on Apr 29, 2010 0:37:06 GMT -5
Also, why is there so many holes in the neck pocket? I suppose the previous owner could have had different necks on it...?
One last thing, look at how much material is still left on the heel of this body, compared to my white body.
Is that odd? Should I wonder if this is an actual HM body?
 
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Post by mrfist9 on Apr 29, 2010 19:20:47 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]What the Hell?[/shadow]
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