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Post by lbeast on Aug 16, 2010 18:54:27 GMT -5
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Post by heem6 on Aug 16, 2010 22:02:19 GMT -5
Yikes. I know some people used to do that, but the problem always was that the strings would still get hung up on the nut. Even if it's a graphite nut.
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Post by Bodaggit23 on Aug 16, 2010 23:39:15 GMT -5
That neck has been listed before.
Shame...
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Post by stratznhatz on Aug 17, 2010 13:44:32 GMT -5
Half 'Yngwied' as well. I quite like scalloped boards but still a shame.
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Post by caine on Aug 17, 2010 20:33:58 GMT -5
Yikes. I know some people used to do that, but the problem always was that the strings would still get hung up on the nut. Even if it's a graphite nut. Lynch has this configuration on his tiger although he has a bone nut instead of a graphite nut. He has a Floyd, bone nut and a Kahler "behind the nut" lock. He claims on the REvolution DVD that he gets a better tone.
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Post by heem6 on Aug 19, 2010 11:24:54 GMT -5
Yep, that's who I was referring to.
Check out this picture of Lynch's guitars from last weekend's gig with The Lynch Mob. Looks like his original Tiger (it has the cracked lacquer finish which occurred when he took it on a commercial flight too soon after it was painted). It looks like he's replaced the original neck with one from the special edition of Tigers that ESP produced for his guitar clinics at Sam Ash awhile back. You can see it has the regular Floyd nut on it.
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Post by caine on Aug 19, 2010 19:39:38 GMT -5
yah, looks like he might have changed out the neck. I wonder how many times he's done that in that last 25 years, lol. Back in the mid 80's, early 90's, I had a Carvin with a Kahler trem w/ brass nut and behind the nut lock--it was one of those cam/flip locks that didn't require an allen wrench--I really liked it. I liked that set up so much that when I built a warmoth "lynch tiger" a few years ago, I set it up with a Floyd, bone nut and behind the nut, cam/flip style kahler lock. Never had any tuning problems. The tobacco burst stat next to the tiger in the pic is an HRR Stratocaster, the "vintage" brethren to the HM strat. Same wide/flat neck (although 22 frets instead of 24 like an HM or 21 like an regular strat), offset heal, dimarzo hb, basswood body, but in a traditional package. It has a tbx tone pot and push-pull spliter for the hbucker. the HRR ran from about 90' until about 94 or 95. The first HRR's had a Kahler steeler (I have a '90 w/ one) or a Floyd original, like the one in the pic ('92)
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Post by stratznhatz on Aug 20, 2010 1:41:12 GMT -5
That's a very nice collection of axes and amps you have there Caine!
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Post by heem6 on Aug 20, 2010 10:17:14 GMT -5
Hi Caine, I may be wrong, but I think I was over at the Lynch board (or was it the Kramer board) when you posted about that Tiger. Very nice! What pickups did you put in her?
I also like the HRR. Do you have a shot of that neck heel you could post? Nice guitars, both of them!
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Post by caine on Aug 20, 2010 22:02:53 GMT -5
Yes, I did post that on the Lynch forum. I actually sold that guitar awhile back. I tried a couple different necks on it and never really got it dialed in so that it felt right to me. Part of it is I couldn't get a warmoth or allparts neck/body pocket as wide as I like, wide like the HRR's or HM's for example. It had a sustainiac in the neck position, a JB junior and later a hot rails in the middle and a duncan distortion in the bridge. Here is a pic of the back side of my two HRR's. Note the offset heal/neck plate: The white one, I've had since 1991. I think it's a 90, bought it new. It came with a Kahler Steeler which was Kahlers knock-off of the Original Floyd Rose. I like it better the the Floyd because the handle screws directly into the main body of the trem instead of having a stud/collar that you screw on which is how the Floyd is. I think it's more stable. The tobacco burst, I bought on eBay a few years ago and its a '92 and came with a Floyd. Here's the Steeler trem:
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Post by lbeast on Aug 21, 2010 12:01:39 GMT -5
IMHO the Steeler is one of the best FRs made. High grade steel, high quality black chrome coating, and flatter design than an OFR is what makes it an excellent tremolo. I have examples of most FR tremolos and Kahler fulcrum tremolos and the Steelers stand above the rest.
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Post by caine on Aug 21, 2010 12:56:35 GMT -5
IMHO the Steeler is one of the best FRs made. High grade steel, high quality black chrome coating, and flatter design than an OFR is what makes it an excellent tremolo. I have examples of most FR tremolos and Kahler fulcrum tremolos and the Steelers stand above the rest. Yes, I agree. Kahler took the oringal Floyd and refined it. Seems like Kahler would put it back into production being that, it's my understanding that the Floyd patents have expired. There is a good overview of the Steeler here: www.glowingtubes.com/p/Kahler_Steeler_Setup.htm"Gary Kahler made several changes that were substantial improvements to the original Floyd design. Among these changes, hardness levels of certain components were improved and the arm attachment method was changed."
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Post by lbeast on Aug 21, 2010 14:30:59 GMT -5
it's my understanding that the Floyd patents have expired. That is my undersatnding as well. I think they expired in 2001. I don't know why they have not done so, unless the old FR lawsuit left a bad taste in Kahler's mouth.
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Post by heem6 on Aug 21, 2010 18:38:13 GMT -5
So how many companies has Floyd Rose driven out of business? I'm being a little sarcastic, but his lawsuit was said to be the nail in Kramer's coffin, and also with Kahler. Any others?
Thanks for posting those pics, Caine!
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