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Post by stratznhatz on Mar 22, 2011 14:51:12 GMT -5
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mrfist9
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Post by mrfist9 on Mar 28, 2011 10:15:25 GMT -5
Sure seems that way. They were all gone for a few months now they're back again. Last year they were up 4-5 Black ones at a time i remember of all different styles. Crazy....
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Post by nickwellings on Mar 28, 2011 10:52:41 GMT -5
Wow! That went for a LOT....guess it is the "Greg Howe" effect again. Pinkies with maple always go for a lot. Looks minty as heck too.
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Post by SteveT on Apr 8, 2011 9:12:12 GMT -5
Wow! That went for a LOT....guess it is the "Greg Howe" effect again. Pinkies with maple always go for a lot. Looks minty as heck too. Do you really think £510 for a 20 year old mint condition example of something that cost £400 new back-in-the-day, is ALOT though Nick? I know they'll never have the value of a US model, but because they're well-worn players usually for sale, I am surprised mint ones dont do better. Most sell for less than they were 20 years ago. I am really surprised these are still so cheap. I bought my example brand-new Nov 1989 for £385 GBP. The list price was about £435 in the UK without any case. I showed someone my flawless HM Strat recently, and its not been played since about 1991 (so you can imagine how mint it is) and they offered me £150. I just laughed. I just hate how my heavy mine is....I'm sure its made of concrete under that paint ;D ;D I've never weighed it but I'm curious what wood could be so heavy! |
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Post by davidben1973 on Apr 12, 2011 17:17:26 GMT -5
Hi I was the winning bidder on the guitar, for me its in good condition the body is perfect neck too, needs some replacement bits but glad I got it, been after a pink and maple for ages. Will try to post some pictures when I have cleaned her up. David Attachments:
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Post by stratznhatz on Apr 13, 2011 12:32:39 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum David.  That's a beautiful example you have there! I was so tempted to bid on it myself, but having just bought one the day before, I had to let my head rule my heart this time lol! I think the price you paid was pretty fair, they have shot up a bit in the uk in recent months and when you consider that well used ones are pulling around £350-£400+ on ebay it doesn't seem a bad deal at all! |
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Post by davidben1973 on Apr 13, 2011 13:26:02 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum David. That's a beautiful example you have there! I was so tempted to bid on it myself, but having just bought one the day before, I had to let my head rule my heart this time lol! I think the price you paid was pretty fair, they have shot up a bit in the uk in recent months and when you consider that well used ones are pulling around £350-£400+ on ebay it doesn't seem a bad deal at all! Cheers for the welcome, ordered some parts for the Kahler it's a great looking guitar, just noticed a new HM on EBay wap.ebay.co.uk/Pages/ViewItem.aspx?aid=130508604248&sv=Fender%20hm&emvcc=0 |
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Post by stratznhatz on Apr 14, 2011 1:56:08 GMT -5
No probs David. Wow! Now THAT one is expensive! I can't see anyone paying that much but you never know, it does seem to be mint.  |
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Post by SteveT on Apr 14, 2011 16:06:12 GMT -5
Hey David, Congratulations on winning -it looks a stunner. The Pink with Maple really works. Very cool but classy. I think yours was definately worth every penny. I soooo wish I'd bought one with maple now. I think the one at £1275 GBP ($2000 USD) is abit unrealistic. You wouldnt pay that much for a flawless unplayed top-of-the-range USA fender from that same year (like a Strat Plus or a Clapton Strat). I know I was grumbling a few posts up saying I was surprised they're not picking up in value  ...but I didnt mean like that haha ;D. Still good luck to the seller. He stresses its a USA made example and not Japan, how would he know? Do sellers just say this to try rustle up a sale? |
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Post by stratznhatz on Apr 15, 2011 13:11:03 GMT -5
Yes, people do tend to play on the 'made in USA' thing as a big selling point, but as far as I understand it's all a bit of a myth, with most if not all the parts being made in Japan and possibly some of the later ones being assembled in the USA or something along those lines. I've heard a few people even say they prefer the 'totally' Japanese HM's! I agree with you on the point that HM's are somewhat under valued, they are certainly excellent guitars, but they have shot up quite a bit from a couple of years back when they were generally fetching around £200-£250. Ironically I was grumbling myself a bit back about how they'd shot up! I guess it all depends on whether you're buying or sellin lol!  To be fair to Nick when he said David's HM went for a lot he's only going off what they generally fetch which is all you can do really, I think a mint one like that is definately worth £500 but like everything else, the real value is only what people are prepared to pay. There's a lot of snob value associated with guitars (and many other things) which means guitars like the HM perhaps don't fetch what they should. I know Greg Howe played and endorsed them back in the day but as great a player as he is he's not really that well known (to the general masses at least) and people tend to want to play the guitars their heroes played, thus the humble HM remains somewhat overlooked, even in the current 80's revival trend! |
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Post by davidben1973 on Apr 15, 2011 15:05:03 GMT -5
For me the Maple and Pink combo is well worth the price, I'm currently using 000000 wire wool to take of the tarnish on the frets, works a treat.
And on the maple, gently does it.
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Post by SteveT on Apr 15, 2011 17:00:33 GMT -5
To be fair to Nick when he said David's HM went for a lot he's only going off what they generally fetch which is all you can do really, I think a mint one like that is definately worth £500 but like everything else, the real value is only what people are prepared to pay. There's a lot of snob value associated with guitars (and many other things) which means guitars like the HM perhaps don't fetch what they should. I know Greg Howe played and endorsed them back in the day but as great a player as he is he's not really that well known (to the general masses at least) and people tend to want to play the guitars their heroes played, thus the humble HM remains somewhat overlooked, even in the current 80's revival trend! Oh yeah I know Stratz, I wasnt criticising what Nick was saying in any way. I totally agree with what he wrote. I was just making an observation over prices in general...because I've had a few people try buy mine, and they've offered pittances that wouldnt even buy me some laminated bodied piece of poop to replace it with . They're well-made Guitars that are selling usually for less than they were brand-new Retail (not even taking into account 20 years of inflation  ). Its ironic when currently produced 'Made In Japan' guitars are really expensive (Japanese Tokai and Gretsch etc). Noone (apart from probably other Fender Japan owners) believes me, but my HM wipes the floor with my USA Strat from a year earlier in terms of finishing/general quality. |
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Post by stratznhatz on Apr 16, 2011 5:40:22 GMT -5
[/quote]Oh yeah I know Stratz, I wasnt criticising what Nick was saying in any way. I totally agree with what he wrote. I was just making an observation over prices in general...because I've had a few people try buy mine, and they've offered pittances that wouldnt even buy me some laminated bodied piece of poop to replace it with . They're well-made Guitars that are selling usually for less than they were brand-new Retail (not even taking into account 20 years of inflation ). Its ironic when currently produced 'Made In Japan' guitars are really expensive (Japanese Tokai and Gretsch etc). Noone (apart from probably other Fender Japan owners) believes me, but my HM wipes the floor with my USA Strat from a year earlier in terms of finishing/general quality.[/quote] Yeah I know what you mean Steve, it must be frustrating to keep getting low ball offers on a mint guitar. As you say, the Jap guitars are as good or better than the USA ones in many cases, but people will pay more to have 'made in USA' stamped on it, I've been guilty of that myself in the past.  I'm sure there's someone out there somewhere who is crying out for a mint HM and will offer you a decent price. You've certainly got the rarity thing on your side, it's not like they can say 'well... I've got six more to look at....' lol! |
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Post by SteveT on Apr 16, 2011 8:20:18 GMT -5
I've decided against ever selling mine Stratz now...thankfully. Better to change your mind in advance than have seller's remorse! ;D I'd toyed with selling as when I rediscovered guitar again, the locking trems/nuts etc were all abit too fiddly for me...and I was going to sell it and buy (dare I admit this here ...) a Telecaster!! ;D I still fancy a Tele with a humbucker in the neck, but cant part with my two 80's fenders. Too much nostalgia. |
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Post by stratznhatz on Apr 16, 2011 11:43:28 GMT -5
Good to hear Steve! It's just reminded me of an HM I bid on on ebay about a year ago. I really wanted it, it was a teal hss rosewood and seemed in fair condition with a couple of minor issues so I put in a pretty high bid(or so I thought, it was certainly above the going rate at that time) at the last minute but didn't meet the reserve. It wasn't re-listed so I e-mailed the seller about 2 weeks after to see if he would sell. He replied by saying his reserve was £450 and if he couldn't get at least that then he'd keep it. It just backs up the theory that these are great guitars that people who still actually play them know how great they are and refuse to let them go cheap. I think you made the right choice! And hey, there's nothing wrong with Tele's! Did you know they did an HM version along with the Strats? |
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...but I didnt mean like that haha ;D. Still good luck to the seller. 
). Its ironic when currently produced 'Made In Japan' guitars are really expensive (Japanese Tokai and Gretsch etc).