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Post by darthv on Oct 3, 2011 22:11:30 GMT -5
Took the old guy out of the case for the first time in a long time. Bought it new back in Sept 1988 and well the spyder is pretty much shot. I had installed a tremol-no a few years ago because the knife edges we chewed up and now it seems one of the mounting posts is bent. I remember emailing Kahler in the late 90s asking about parts and why they used soft metal...they replied, no it's hard metal it's YOUR fault things got stripped. RIGHT!
I love the feel of the neck. I'd say it was pretty close to being on par with my 1993 Ibanez s540 saber and my newer RGA121 Prestige. But without a reliable bridge, the Fender is not getting much play time.
What options do I have?
1. Buy a brand new Spyder.
2. Buy a Kahler 2200/2300 and have it installed.
3. Buy an original Floyd and have it installed.
Cheapest and easiest way would be to buy one of the NOS Spyders. But do I really want to chuck $250 into something that's already failed on me once?
How much work would be involved to have an OFR installed? Does the body need routing? What about the lock nut?
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Post by darthv on Oct 18, 2011 14:50:01 GMT -5
So nobody else has done this??
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Post by mrfist9 on Oct 18, 2011 15:25:11 GMT -5
Buy a used Spyder. Partouts happen all the time. Your bound to find one.
Last time I checked Jim had one or two PM him.
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Post by strat80hm on Oct 28, 2011 23:41:50 GMT -5
Hey Darthv, I have a similar situation here:
I love playing with the whammy bar and find the original Leo Fender "tremolo" bridge sufficient for my liking - read " i dont particularly love the "double locking tremolo" world necessiting any type of tools (allen wrench) to change a string. I m basically a usual strat dude who love to have it easy.
I m having that 80s Strat HM equipped with that Kahler Spyder Double Locking Tremolo bridge with missing arm.
- i d like to convert it to something more gig-friendly, thinking of installing some more regular Fender tremolo bridge system (the "locking nut" parts are missing anyway).
- if impossible (width?), i d install some Floyd Rose bridge on it (better alloy and parts easy to find), still without locking the nut.
I know i cannot be the only person to have had that natural desire (the HM is a nice light guitar with an awesome neck):
- is there anybody out there who went through this before me?
Any advice, picture, story, how-to, etc.. would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much in advance.
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Post by 89hm on Dec 4, 2011 4:23:44 GMT -5
Just put a new Floyd in mine and could'nt be happier. Looks like my tech only had to route a '"very" tiny bit around the back corners of the main recess cavity. You can't even tell. The Floyd works sooo much better than the Spyder ever did new.  |
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Post by heem6 on Dec 21, 2011 18:10:57 GMT -5
Beautiful Black Strat!
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Post by darthv on Aug 17, 2012 20:14:17 GMT -5
Just put a new Floyd in mine and could'nt be happier. Looks like my tech only had to route a '"very" tiny bit around the back corners of the main recess cavity. You can't even tell. The Floyd works sooo much better than the Spyder ever did new. Wait, I was very much under the impression that a OFR used a different width for the mounting posts?? |
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Post by bll on Aug 23, 2012 19:35:36 GMT -5
the spacing is exactly the same. i have a type one (spyder, pink) and a type two (ofr, white) and i just put my calipers on both of them and they are exactly the same. all we need to do is drill out the kahler inserts. plug the hole and redrill for the floyd inserts. pretty sure drilling is the only way to get that insert out.  |
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Post by liberphile on Sept 9, 2012 13:18:11 GMT -5
On all 3 guitars I've ever seen a Kahler spyder tremolo the bridge has broken parts or barely functional. Of course they are all 20+ years old. Exactly which Floyd rose bridge did you use?
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Post by liberphile on Sept 9, 2012 13:20:08 GMT -5
Someone replaced the Kahler bridge on the E8 hm strat I picked up last night, which means it probably had issues too. Right now they have some aftermarket bridge called a bendmaster deluxe. It's not bad but, I would like to have a floyd put in there so that it's arguably "original".
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Post by liberphile on Sept 10, 2012 16:08:46 GMT -5
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Post by bango on Sept 13, 2012 4:10:13 GMT -5
Think the original floyd rose special are lower quality,ie made from lower strength metals ,just cheaper parts,that's why they are cheaper to buy. |
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Post by db133 on Jan 30, 2013 18:09:55 GMT -5
Just put a new Floyd in mine and could'nt be happier. Looks like my tech only had to route a '"very" tiny bit around the back corners of the main recess cavity. You can't even tell. The Floyd works sooo much better than the Spyder ever did new. Hi What FR did you have fitted and if you dont mind how much did it cost to fit ? Kind regards. |
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Post by db133 on Feb 10, 2013 6:14:58 GMT -5
Can someone please update this thread and if possible clarify :
Bridge replacement for HM Strat ?
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